A thermostat for the smartphone generation
The next generation Nest has a new, slimmer design, is enclosed by a solid stainless steel ring and works with 95% of low voltage systems.
The Nest Learning Thermostat learns what temperatures you like, turns itself down when you're away and can be controlled from anywhere over Wi-Fi. By programming itself, the Nest thermostat can save up to 20% on your heating and cooling bill. You just have to teach it well.
Check Compatibility. NOTE: This will take you away from Amazon.com.
Let's stop wasting energy.
Your thermostat controls about 50% of your energy bill - that's as much as the refrigerator, lighting, TVs, stereos and computers combined. Problem is, a lot of that energy is wasted heating and cooling an empty home.
Programmable thermostats were supposed to help, but only 11% are programmed to save energy. They're just too complicated.
That's why we made Nest simple. It's so easy to use that 99% of Nests have custom schedules.
Control from your Wi-Fi connected Nest Account.
Simply connect the Nest Learning Thermostat to your home Wi-Fi to control it from a smartphone, tablet or laptop. Change the temperature, see and adjust your schedule or settings, and see exactly how much energy you're using.
Detailed Energy History is available on the Mobile and Web app for the last 10 days and Nest sends you an Energy Report every month with tips to help you save more.
Nest is secure, private, and reliable. Nest supports HTTPS, SSL and 128-bit encryption.
Programs itself. Saves energy.
Nest is the first thermostat that learns from you. Teach it well to stay comfortable at home and save energy when you're away.
Auto-Schedule
Turn it up, turn it down. Nest remembers what temperatures keep you comfortable and creates a custom schedule for your home. As your life and the seasons change, Nest automatically adapts.
The Nest Leaf
Whenever you make a choice to save energy - like choosing an energy-efficient temperature - you'll see a Nest Leaf. People who earn a Leaf every day save 10% more on average.
Auto-Away
Nest uses its activity sensors to sense when nobody's home and turn itself to an energy-saving temperature. Auto-Away works in 90% of homes, even if Nest is in a room you don't use much.
System Match
System Match automatically turns on specific features for your heating or cooling system to make you more comfortable and help you save energy.
Airwave
Airwave automatically turns off the AC a few minutes early, but keeps the fan running. Airwave keeps you just as comfortable but runs your AC up to 30% less.
Energy History
After you've left the house, Nest will sense you've gone and automatically adjusts the temperature to avoid heating or cooling an empty home.
Personalized for any system
Unlike every other thermostat, Nest knows one size doesn't fit all. So you tell Nest what system you have and System Match will turn on specific features to keep you comfortable and help you save.
Early-On
Get the temperature you want when you want it. If your schedule says 72°F at 6am, Early-On will start heating or cooling early so it'll be 72°F when your alarm rings at 6:00.
Filter Reminders
Nest reminds you to change your air filter based on how many hours your heat or AC has run. A clean filter can cut 5% off your heating or cooling bill.
Heat Pump Balance
Nest's exclusive Heat Pump Balance feature minimizes how often you need to use expensive auxiliary heat. Just choose whether you want more comfort or more savings, and Heat Pump Balance will automatically adjust when AUX comes on.
True Radiant
True Radiant is a Nest exclusive that gives you a predictable schedule and even heat. No more frustrating guessing about what temperature to set when.
Easy to Install
Three out of four people install Nest themselves in 30 minutes or less. If you're comfortable installing a light fixture, you can install Nest. Everything you need comes in the box. Too busy? Learn more about Nest Certified professional installation at 855-4MY-NEST.
At home in most homes.
Nest is compatible with 95% of 24 volt heating & cooling systems: gas, oil, electric, oil, forced air, heat pump and radiant.
- Heating: 1, 2 and 3 stages (W1, W2, W3 wires)
- Cooling: 1 and 2 stages (Y1, Y2)
- Heat pump: with auxiliary and emergency heat (O/B, AUX, E)
- Fan (G)
- Power (C, Rh, Rc)
- Humidifier or Dehumidifier (HUM, DEHUM)*
- Dual fuel (heat pump and furnace)*
- Zone systems with or without dampers
- Adding a Common "C" wire is not needed in 99% of installations
- Wi-Fi required for remote control and software updates and Energy Reports
* Professional installation recommended
Use Nest's Compatibility Checker to make sure Nest will work in your home and get a custom wiring guide. NOTE: This will take you away from Amazon.com.
Detailed Specs.
Here's the technical info for the Nest Learning Thermostat
- Mass=252g / 8.9oz
- Diam=83.0mm / 3.27 inches
- Height=32.0mm / 1.26 in
Environmental
- RoHS Compliant
- Mercury Free
- 100% Recyclable Packaging
Wireless
- 802.11b/g/n @ 2.4GHz
- 802.15.4 @ 2.4GHz
- Nest Learning Thermostat
- Installation guide
- Welcome guide
- Nest screwdriver
- Wall screws
- Optional trim kit
- English
- French
- Spanish
Battery
- Built in rechargable lithium-ion battery
- Temperature
- Humidity
- Far-field activity
- Near-field activity
- Ambient light
Warranty
- 2 year limited hardware
LCD Display
- 24 bit color
- Ø320 display
- 1.75" diameter
Nest, the Nest logo, Learning Thermostat, Auto-Away, Auto- Schedule, Airwave, Nest Sense, The Leaf, the Nest Leaf logo, and the Nest house logo are trademarks of Nest Labs, Inc.
Comparison ChartThe 2nd generation Nest is 20% thinner, is enclosed by a solid stainless steel ring that beautifully reflects your wall color, and works in 95% of homes with low voltage systems. |
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2nd Generation |
1st Generation | ||
| 24 volt heating and cooling systems |  | | |
| Gas, oil, electric, solar, geothermal systems | | | |
| 1 and 2 stage heating | | | |
| 1 stage cooling | | | |
| 1 stage heat pump with auxiliary heat | | | |
| Zone systems with or without dampers | | | |
| 2 stage cooling | | ||
| 3 stage heating | | ||
| 1 and 2 stage heat pump with auxilary and/or emergency heat | | ||
| Dual fuel systems (Heat pump with furnace)* | | ||
| Humidifier or dehumidifier* | | ||
| *Professional installation recommended |
| Price: |
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Product Details
- Amazon Sales Rank: #15 in Home Improvement
- Brand: Nest
- Model: T200577
- Released on: 2012-10-14
- Number of items: 1
Features
- 2nd generation design - Nest is now 20 percent thinner and works in 95 percent of homes with low voltage systems
- Auto-Schedule - Nest remembers the temperatures you like and programs itself
- Auto-Away - Nest saves energy by automatically turning itself down when you're away
- Remote control - Connect Nest to Wi-Fi to control it from your smartphone, laptop or tablet
- Easy install - Most homeowners install Nest themselves in 30 minutes or less. After that, it's just a matter of changing the temperature
From the Manufacturer
A thermostat for the smartphone generation
The next generation Nest has a new, slimmer design, is enclosed by a solid stainless steel ring and works with 95% of low voltage systems.
The Nest Learning Thermostat learns what temperatures you like, turns itself down when you're away and can be controlled from anywhere over Wi-Fi. By programming itself, the Nest thermostat can save up to 20% on your heating and cooling bill. You just have to teach it well.
Check Compatibility. NOTE: This will take you away from Amazon.com.
Let's stop wasting energy.
Your thermostat controls about 50% of your energy bill - that's as much as the refrigerator, lighting, TVs, stereos and computers combined. Problem is, a lot of that energy is wasted heating and cooling an empty home.
Programmable thermostats were supposed to help, but only 11% are programmed to save energy. They're just too complicated.
That's why we made Nest simple. It's so easy to use that 99% of Nests have custom schedules.
Control from your Wi-Fi connected Nest Account.
Simply connect the Nest Learning Thermostat to your home Wi-Fi to control it from a smartphone, tablet or laptop. Change the temperature, see and adjust your schedule or settings, and see exactly how much energy you're using.
Detailed Energy History is available on the Mobile and Web app for the last 10 days and Nest sends you an Energy Report every month with tips to help you save more.
Nest is secure, private, and reliable. Nest supports HTTPS, SSL and 128-bit encryption.
Programs itself. Saves energy.
Nest is the first thermostat that learns from you. Teach it well to stay comfortable at home and save energy when you're away.
Auto-Schedule
Turn it up, turn it down. Nest remembers what temperatures keep you comfortable and creates a custom schedule for your home. As your life and the seasons change, Nest automatically adapts.
The Nest Leaf
Whenever you make a choice to save energy - like choosing an energy-efficient temperature - you'll see a Nest Leaf. People who earn a Leaf every day save 10% more on average.
Auto-Away
Nest uses its activity sensors to sense when nobody's home and turn itself to an energy-saving temperature. Auto-Away works in 90% of homes, even if Nest is in a room you don't use much.
System Match
System Match automatically turns on specific features for your heating or cooling system to make you more comfortable and help you save energy.
Airwave
Airwave automatically turns off the AC a few minutes early, but keeps the fan running. Airwave keeps you just as comfortable but runs your AC up to 30% less.
Energy History
After you've left the house, Nest will sense you've gone and automatically adjusts the temperature to avoid heating or cooling an empty home.
Personalized for any system
Unlike every other thermostat, Nest knows one size doesn't fit all. So you tell Nest what system you have and System Match will turn on specific features to keep you comfortable and help you save.
Early-On
Get the temperature you want when you want it. If your schedule says 72°F at 6am, Early-On will start heating or cooling early so it'll be 72°F when your alarm rings at 6:00.
Filter Reminders
Nest reminds you to change your air filter based on how many hours your heat or AC has run. A clean filter can cut 5% off your heating or cooling bill.
Heat Pump Balance
Nest's exclusive Heat Pump Balance feature minimizes how often you need to use expensive auxiliary heat. Just choose whether you want more comfort or more savings, and Heat Pump Balance will automatically adjust when AUX comes on.
True Radiant
True Radiant is a Nest exclusive that gives you a predictable schedule and even heat. No more frustrating guessing about what temperature to set when.
Easy to Install
Three out of four people install Nest themselves in 30 minutes or less. If you're comfortable installing a light fixture, you can install Nest. Everything you need comes in the box. Too busy? Learn more about Nest Certified professional installation at 855-4MY-NEST.
At home in most homes.
Nest is compatible with 95% of 24 volt heating & cooling systems: gas, oil, electric, oil, forced air, heat pump and radiant.
- Heating: 1, 2 and 3 stages (W1, W2, W3 wires)
- Cooling: 1 and 2 stages (Y1, Y2)
- Heat pump: with auxiliary and emergency heat (O/B, AUX, E)
- Fan (G)
- Power (C, Rh, Rc)
- Humidifier or Dehumidifier (HUM, DEHUM)*
- Dual fuel (heat pump and furnace)*
- Zone systems with or without dampers
- Adding a Common "C" wire is not needed in 99% of installations
- Wi-Fi required for remote control and software updates and Energy Reports
* Professional installation recommended
Use Nest's Compatibility Checker to make sure Nest will work in your home and get a custom wiring guide. NOTE: This will take you away from Amazon.com.
Detailed Specs.
Here's the technical info for the Nest Learning Thermostat
- Mass=252g / 8.9oz
- Diam=83.0mm / 3.27 inches
- Height=32.0mm / 1.26 in
Environmental
- RoHS Compliant
- Mercury Free
- 100% Recyclable Packaging
Wireless
- 802.11b/g/n @ 2.4GHz
- 802.15.4 @ 2.4GHz
- Nest Learning Thermostat
- Installation guide
- Welcome guide
- Nest screwdriver
- Wall screws
- Optional trim kit
- English
- French
- Spanish
Battery
- Built in rechargable lithium-ion battery
- Temperature
- Humidity
- Far-field activity
- Near-field activity
- Ambient light
Warranty
- 2 year limited hardware
LCD Display
- 24 bit color
- Ø320 display
- 1.75" diameter
Nest, the Nest logo, Learning Thermostat, Auto-Away, Auto- Schedule, Airwave, Nest Sense, The Leaf, the Nest Leaf logo, and the Nest house logo are trademarks of Nest Labs, Inc.
Comparison ChartThe 2nd generation Nest is 20% thinner, is enclosed by a solid stainless steel ring that beautifully reflects your wall color, and works in 95% of homes with low voltage systems. |
|
| |
|---|---|---|---|
2nd Generation |
1st Generation | ||
| 24 volt heating and cooling systems | | | |
| Gas, oil, electric, solar, geothermal systems | | | |
| 1 and 2 stage heating | | | |
| 1 stage cooling | | | |
| 1 stage heat pump with auxiliary heat | | | |
| Zone systems with or without dampers | | | |
| 2 stage cooling | | ||
| 3 stage heating | | ||
| 1 and 2 stage heat pump with auxilary and/or emergency heat | | ||
| Dual fuel systems (Heat pump with furnace)* | | ||
| Humidifier or dehumidifier* | | ||
| *Professional installation recommended |
Customer Reviews
Most helpful customer reviews
313 of 337 people found the following review helpful.
By Saint04
I originally purchased the 1st generation of this thermostat. The only thing I didn't like about the 1st gen thermostat was how far it protruded from the wall. On my final day for the return policy of the 1st gen, the 2nd gen was advertised to be released soon. So, I didn't hesitate to uninstall the old thermostat to send it back, pre-order and wait on the 2nd gen. The 2nd gen thermostat's profile in my opinion is perfect for the look and style I desire in my home; It makes my home appear a little more modern, but not too much. The install was easy and it looks great just as with the 1st gen. I noticed a $35 drop in my $120 per month power bill w/the first gen. I have a 2200 sq/ft home w/3bdrm and 2bth that's occupied by only myself and my wife. My AC system is a basic singles stage AC and a two stage heater; I hooked up six wires: O,R,B(C),W2,G & Y. I live in FL and the AC runs at 82 during the day and 78 at night. I'm hoping for about the same performance if not better with this thermostat. I'll admit I did try to go with a programmable Honeywell thermostat which ended up not being compatible with my system while waiting on this order. So my options were keep to my pre-order with the 2nd gen nest or keep the old thermostat from over ten years ago with no features. I'm glad to have decided to go with the 2nd gen Nest.
There are Nest only exclusive cost-saving features on this device. So please no ranting on how this is just another overpriced thermostat for those who are reading reviews and are against this product. Move on to another product where people care instead of being a Debbie downer. My two favorite features of this unit are the auto-away and air-wave technologies (for the A/C) which are probably the two most cost saving features for me. Air-wave shuts down the compressor before the push box. Since the coils are still cold from the compressor running, the thermostat knows how long it takes for your home to get from one temp to another. Depending on this time, the thermostat knows when to shut down the compressor to save power while still getting the home to the desired temp. Auto-away is a feature that shuts off the AC within a programmable range if it detects no one is home. My unit is in a hallway that doesn't see much traffic (I spend most my time in a back office) and this unit still managed to not go into auto-away mode while I'm home. A side note on auto-away though is that it must be trained within the first two weeks before it has an idea of your home activity. Once the unit trains itself, the power saving features will all be automated unless you manually disable them.
As everyone else has claimed, the setup was quick and easy for both the thermostat and wifi to access a personal profile/account. The tools to install the thermostat are generously included with the premium price. Packaging was premium and very Apple-like; a nice presentation.
Yes, like mostly everyone else, I realize $250 is a lot to spend on a thermostat. I don't mind spending that kind of money on something that is going into my home that will be used 24/7. If you don't mind the price hurdle, I'm pretty confident you'll be happy with the performance, company(Nest) and style of this thermostat.
I'm very happy with this thermostat if its anything like the 1st gen in performance. If it doesn't perform, expect a followup to this review. As of now, I'm very pleased assuming the only real differences I'll be expecting from the 1st to 2nd gen is aesthetic appeal.
If you have any questions, I'll do my best to respond. Also, before giving a review a thumbs down, provide a suggestion for making it better. Thanks.
----------update (12-12-12)--------------
I just wanted to mention then 2nd gen is on par with the 1st gen thermostat in cost savings and performance.
115 of 128 people found the following review helpful.
By nikecmh
Picked mine up from the store today.
***DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REMOVE THE FILM FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE UNIT*** I am one of those remove plastic wrap from everything kind of guys. Guess what, that isn't plastic wrap on the entire bottom of the Nest ring itself. It's the sensors. Don't scuff up your Nest!
It took longer to unbox it then it did for me to install it. It helps that I only had 2 wires, red & white to connect. Connected to my Wifi easily. It then downloaded a software/hardware update 3.01. After that it was pretty painless.
Looks great on the wall. If you think the stainless ring reflects the color of your wall like they say it does, then you are willing it to happen.
I never had the Nest 1 to compare it to but this one is very sharp looking. Everything in the box was well packaged.
Mainly got this unit for the fuel savings and the fact that it does not need a "C" wire to work like every other fancy thermostat.
Android app works perfectly over 4G or Wifi. Running ICS on a Droid Razr.
Unit does have an Anti-Freeze temp setting since someone asked.
293 of 346 people found the following review helpful.
By Kevin Nicholls
Day one with the Nest, and I'm on the fence at the moment...
I finally accepted that the days of "I'm at work from 8:00 to 5:00, so stop using the heat / ac" programming with my trusty Honeywell VisionPRO were coming to an end with my wife and daughter in and out of the house at different times throughout the day. So, I was really taken with the auto-learn auto-away functionality.
Setting up my thermostat should have been pretty straightforward, having only four wires. But what would normally be a few minutes worth of work turned in to a night of frustration. Near midnight, I finally gave in and checked to see if their support people were still around. Turns out, they were. In under a minute, I was talking to a US-based support person. We went through some information gathering, and just as actual work was going to begin, the Nest thermostat magically started working. "Weird. We'll have to keep an eye on that." Yeah, I'd have to concur.
The menus were easy to navigate, and a couple of minutes later, my Nest account was setup and my thermostat was reporting in. The settings on the site are much easier to use than the walk-up menus, so don't get sucked in to playing with the menus if time is important. (Personally, I dig the menus.) After a short while, I noticed that the thermostat seems to stop reporting in after ten minutes. And... it doesn't seem to come back, until you walk up to it and tap it. I'd wonder if it was a problem with network connectivity if I wasn't on the same wireless network in the same room as the thermostat and wireless router. "Always Connected"? Not so much. How am I supposed to control it when I'm away, if I can't even control it from my couch?
Speaking of walking up to it, for a thermostat packed full of sensors, it can't seem to figure out when someone's standing in front of it. Although it has a setting to turn the display on when it senses motion, it doesn't pick up anything from me until I'm an inch or two from touching the thermostat.
Maybe there are software updates coming. Maybe the energy savings will make the cosmetic problems less important. Maybe I just got a crap unit. In any case, this product seems to be for early adopters who are willing to deal with some bumps in the road. If you expect flawless performance, you probably want to wait for the third generation, or at least a few updates.
UPDATE: This will be the first update of several.
While I did call Nest Support last night, I didn't mention anything about the sensor not "seeing" me, or the network connection dropping. Yet, at noon (Eastern) someone called about the issues I reported in this review. I haven't been able to return the call just yet, but before anyone takes my review too negatively, I wanted to make sure that everyone knew that if nothing else, Nest's support is incredible.
2ND UPDATE: The support person at Nest has been great with follow-up calls, and some progress has been made. The sensors seem to be learning, which is a big plus. And, it's starting to look like my furnace is quirky about giving full power to the wiring. After some troubleshooting, I'm able to consistently reproduce the same wiring "problem" that the Nest sees.
*So, a potential warning to owners of newer Goodman equipment*: it's looking like the system board doesn't push full power until the system has been powered on for about ten minutes. If you're fascist about safety and turn off your furnace power to work on 24V wiring (guilty), it seems that the Nest will complain about Y1 or RC arbitrarily until the system has been powered on for a while.
3RD UPDATE:
Now that I've had Nest for just over a week, things have started going downhill again. Gone are the days when the display would notice me walking by. Now we're back to waving a hand in front of the display to get it to light up.
Well... except for this evening. It decided at 6:52 that we were away. We had left at 4:50, but for the first "Hey, you're not here" I guess it was better than nothing. When we got back, the heat came on, and everything seemed normal for a little while.
Then it started getting warm. After a brief time, I went up to the Nest and found that it decided to turn itself up to 80. I caught it at 74, and turned it down to 72 where I left it.
In summary: For as polished as it seems, Nest is looking more schizophrenic as time progresses.
4TH UPDATE (10/30/2012):
And I'm docking a star.
After a couple of nights of "Why is it so hot in here? Oh, the dumb thermostat made it 80 again," I realized that for some mysterious reason, my Nest had created a new auto-schedule to make it 80 every day at midnight.
Why 80 and not 78, or 81? Who knows? I've never set it higher than 73, so I couldn't guess where that number came from. However, I did lose my green leaf for the day. Was it because 80 is an unreasonable setting? Was it because I manually intervened? Who knows. Nest certainly won't tell me.
What it will tell me, is that yesterday, the house was empty at 10:30 in the morning. It was actually empty at 8:25, but it's not like I bought a relatively expensive device to know better. I can't say I'm entirely shocked, because it seems to have stopped paying attention to nearby motion again. Great.
The thing is, getting the daily reports online really does tell a tale. I absolutely see the value in the product -- if it worked properly. I've decided to exchange mine today, to see if a replacement is any better.
5TH UPDATE:
Well, my replacement hasn't arrived yet. I cleared out the schedule, and once again "Gee... it seems kind of warm."
This time, instead of the thermostat being set beyond 72, it's set right... it just happens to be orange (showing that the heat cycle is active) and the actual thermometer shows that I'm at 74... no... 75... I set it to "Off" on the web interface and set the fan to "Always On". The display is black, shows it's set to 72, with the fan on, and "Heating"... 76... 77... Well, there was no "click" and the furnace is still going... 78... It's been five minutes, so there's a reasonable cool-down window... 79... 80... Breaker time.
Yeah, the stupid Nest thermostat wouldn't turn my furnace off this time. My months-old furnace. I did a hard reset, let it reboot, set the fan back to "Always On", and now it's sitting there happily doing nothing.
We'll see how the new one goes, but for everyone's sake, I hope mine's defective.
6TH UPDATE (11/16/2012):
If anyone's following my saga, I've been running on the new Nest thermostat for about a week now, and so far, it hasn't jacked my furnace to 80, so that's a positive thing. It did decide that it should schedule 72 for 4 p.m. out of the blue, but that's better than 80.
That's probably the only positive thing though. The new one seems to have a much wider temperature variance before it will heat or cool, so setting it to 72 means you could be touching 70 before the furnace comes on.
Motion sensing is also as dismal as can be. Sometimes it notices me. Most of the time, I have to wave my hand at it.
Since it now has to "learn" everything again on its own, expect a 7th update for Auto-Away and automatic scheduling.
7TH UPDATE (11/26/2012) Cyber Monday Edition!:
I believe it was Flavor Flav who first said "Don't believe the hype." It was as true then, as it is now, though I guess now I'm talking about a thermostat and Flav was talking about... okay, bad analogy, I guess.
In any case, here's my final verdict:
*If you think it's cool to be able to control your heating and cooling system remotely, this is a fairly elegant and device-agnostic solution.
*If you think friends and family will come marvel at your expensive thermostat, this fits the bill nicely.
*If you want your home's temperature to be a specific number, forget you ever saw this item. Even when you set it to an explicit temperature, it often allows a 1 - 2 degree variance on either side.
*If Auto-Away was a selling feature and you expect it to notice nobody's home in under two hours' time, forget it. Two hours is the shortest time its taken for this thermostat to figure out the house is empty.
*If you're thinking that huge energy savings are going to offset the price, think again. Now that I've had this for an entire electric / gas billing cycle, my changes are (drumroll please): 8% more electricity than last year, 0% more gas. The temperature here has been roughly the same as last year, but I did install a new high-efficiency furnace and AC to replace the 15 year-old one that was in last year, so... uh... you do the math there.
I may have another update or two in me, but after two units, I'm not at all impressed.
FINAL UPDATE: 12/13/2012
After weeks of crazy thermostat settings, a higher energy bill, and lots of frustration, the Nest Learning Thermostat is officially gone. I've replaced it with the ecobee EB-STAT-02 Smart Thermostat 4 Heat-2 Cool with Full Color Touch Screen, and I'm not looking back.
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